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Letter: Candidates Must State Position on AES' Application to Repower

Even though Measure A failed, candidates in the City Council District 1 and mayoral runoffs must state their position on AES' plans to repower its Redondo Beach power plant, writes Don Vangeloff.

With Measure A unfortunately defeated, that issue is no longer on the table for the mayoral race. So, I hope all local media will honor us voters and push the runoff mayoral candidates to clearly answer two fundamental questions:

Do you, Candidate _____, want AES to gain California Energy Commission approval for their new power plant? If not, what will you specifically do to stop it?

Specifics are important!

Both Messrs. Aspel and Kilroy previously said they don't want a new power plant; however, given their inability (or lack of desire) as councilmen to do anything of substance against a new Powerplant, we need to press them for answers now. It was easy for them to be against Measure A, but what are they for?

Measure A, whether you liked it or not, was a real solution to prevent AES' new power plant from being built within a 5-iron's shot of 10,000+ residents per square mile. But neither candidate offered any real solution of their own during the election. One took no "official" stance on "A," although last summer he refused to vote for a resolution against a new power plant while the public considered the initiative behind Measure A. Nice.

The other candidate at least took a stand on "A" but didn't necessarily distinguish himself with the quality of his arguments against the measure. At least not at the public debate I attended. Same with the council runoffs: We know Jim Light is against a new power plant, but what about his opponent?

Measure A barely lost, and most NO voters don’t want a new power plant. In the mayoral (and council) runoffs, we deserve to hear clearly from each candidate; just exactly where they stand on CEC approval of AES’ power plant; and what they'll do about it. They can't hide behind Measure A anymore.

Don Vangeloff
Redondo Beach

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Stu March 17, 2013 at 07:00 pm
Seconded! Great idea!
Tim Sole March 17, 2013 at 07:45 pm
Don, the measure failed, no more need for anyone to do anything. This is just the beginning of destroying any and all attempts by environmental extremists to control agendas. THIS IS NOW ABOUT JOBS and ENVIRO-FREAKS HATE JOBS FOR COMMON FOLKS..........
Wolfman March 17, 2013 at 08:19 pm
our Redondo Beach city leaders are still afraid of the super powerful AES and Edison monopoly's
Walt Howells March 17, 2013 at 08:40 pm
Tim, Measure A was defeated by 257 votes, primarily from North Redondo districts 4 & 5. Those voting residents of the north don't have to deal with the noise, pollution & blight. I'm sure if AES wanted to build a new power plant in Manhattan Beach's Polliwog Park I'm sure they would be raising holy tooth-picks about their proximity to such an eye-sore. I'm all for business & jobs but not when any business puts their profit making above the quality of whatever life I have left
Bob March 17, 2013 at 09:39 pm
Walt you are correct it was a narrow margin, but a margin that still is a defeat. It's time to move on. The Power Plant has been there for decades. IF they do go ahead with a new power plant it would be more efficient. Can you imagine how you would feel if the City came to your house and said "we don't like you living here so we are changing the zoning and you have to leave". I don't think you would be happy either. The measure is defeated.
Daniel Nunez March 18, 2013 at 12:24 am
It is quite difficult to comprehend why or how it is that with such a rare, possibly unique opportunity to remarkedly improve the neighborhood where we live and the overall beauty of OUR City and the area in general, we-as a community failed to embrace it...
As BIG-AND-POWERFUL as Edison and AES are, I'm convinced that they will not go out of business if they have to relocate the plant, what we fail to understand is that the real power lays in every member our comunity but we continue to blindly allow big financial interest to highjack our votes and the command and authority the ballot measures deserve. If there is still an opportunity for our local elected officials to improve life in our community, how can they possibly not do something about it??? Who's interest are they representing then... I would hope it is my children's and grand children, not AES or Edison.
Richard Muller March 18, 2013 at 03:41 am
Boring!
Josh Warren March 18, 2013 at 03:48 am
What some are failing to realize is that the community can't force AES to tear down down the existing plant, especially if the city cripples its means of generating income. This means that the purchase of the land, tear down of the plant, and clean up of the ground soil will fall on the hands of the city. This must all be done before any developer will get involved or any park can be built. Then the question is who will be responsible for the transmission lines? AES doesn't own them and I doubt that Edison will pay to move the lines just because residents want them out with no help from the city. So now higher taxes to pay to get rid of the plant and powerlines and increased electric bills for the work Edison will complete.
This argument of a better neighborhood or increase land values doesn't seem to be very logical either. The plant, or a plant has here before pretty much everything else. So if it was ok to move here then why is it such an issue now? The better thing would be to get a new plant with less of a footprint rather than to keep the old exisitng plant there rusting away even more. Rezoning doesn't require AES to sell or take down what's in place.
Bob Boren March 18, 2013 at 12:08 pm
Walt, I resent your comments about Dist 4 & 5. I was against Meas A because of certain principles I hold about property rights and the rule of law. I would not become a NIMBY voter if I lived closer to the power plant. I'm also somebody who sees the writing on the wall about electrical capability. I believe that, with the growth or things like plug-in hybrid cars, we are going to need more generating capacity, not less. I don't care what "Experts" who have an axe to grind say about that issue, or pollution, or what private companies will do when they get pushed around by the local NIMBY crowds (which every city has, including outlying cities). Meas A lost. Now lets move on.
Jim Light March 18, 2013 at 12:41 pm
Three other cities have forced their power plants to be torn down. I love how other communities can make things happen, but we seem uniquely unable to do anything.
Sandy March 18, 2013 at 02:29 pm
Measure A also lost in both precincts in District 1, the same District Jim LIght was running for City Council. Apparently they (District 1) didn't like the message or the messenger either!
Don Vangeloff March 18, 2013 at 02:34 pm
Tim, respectfully, how many permanent jobs do you think AES' new, smaller, more efficient plant will produce, especially since AES keeps reducing the expected run time (25% latest est) of their proposed plant? I believe Mr Pendagraft testified to 50-60 jobs at a Council Mtg. Sure, building a new plant (and tearing down the old one) will likely generate 100s of jobs during that duration, but the tear-down jobs are the same in any scenario. If we were able to realize a suitable vision of resident/visitor commercial uses with public (hotel, shops, marine museum/university-research institute, public open space), that will require 100s of construction jobs too. BUT THE BIG DIFFERENCE... we would gain 100s of jobs, created right here in RBeach, with commercial/public mix vision (staffing/delivering all those non-industrial commercial/public uses) with zero plant. Especially if the big transmission lines go away too (a potential result of no new plant, but would remain with a new plant) - a lot of space gets freed-up for job-creating uses that benefit the whole region. You're right, this is about jobs and economic benefit, among other things. Thanks!
Sandy March 18, 2013 at 02:46 pm
"Highjack our Votes" Daniel, are you serious? Let's examine the facts. Fact 1: In order to get Measure A on the ballot, at least 10,000 valid, registered voters had to sign a petition. Fact 2: This threshold was met. Fact 3: 6,295 votes were cast for Measure A, 6,552 against. Where were the other 4,000 voters who signed the petition on election day? Held hostage somewhere by AES? Don't blame AES Daniel, blame yourselves!
Jim Light March 18, 2013 at 03:16 pm
Sandy,
Your numnbers are wrong. We needed 6000 signatures to get on the ballot. We got just under 7500 valid signatures. AES spent $500,000 on the campaign against A. The Chamber, former fire chief and several Councilman lent their names to the AES mailers, billboards, phone calls, TV and online ads. For the margin to be a paltry 257 votes against that tidal wave of advertising is a telling in and of itself. Had AES not thrown in hundreds of thousands of dollars in this effort, it is quite reasonable to conclude Measure A would have won.
Sandy March 18, 2013 at 04:11 pm
You're right Jim about the 10,000 signatures, I got that number confused with the $10,000.00 it cost the City of Redondo to verify the signatures via the Country Recorders Office.
Walt Howells March 18, 2013 at 04:30 pm
Bob, Sorry I've away from the conversation, you see I still work for a living so I can enjoy living next to a blighting power plant. And, don't get your pants un a bunch and be resentful. Power generation and power storage in our country are changing at a very rapid pace, here's a couple of links that might be of help to you: http://WWW.bloomenergy.com & http://www.ambri.com. have a great day...
Bob Boren March 18, 2013 at 05:19 pm
Lol. Gee, Walt, thanks for the Global Warming propaganda links. What a joke.
Ray Benning March 18, 2013 at 08:50 pm
Measure A is history. Let's move forward.
Walt Howells March 18, 2013 at 09:32 pm
Gee Bob, If you take a few minutes out of your busy life to study the links I provided you wouldn't called them propaganda. Bill Gates is a major source of revenue to AMBRI & Colin Powell is a sitting board member for Bloom Energy. I'm not trying to get you to do anything, just providing useful information. Grid supplied electricity is doomed, distributed power is the future, not from burning fossil fuel but through an electro-chemical process without pullution & grid level storage batteries to store energy created by solar & wind for use when the sun doesn't shine & the wind doesn't blow are also on the horizon. I really hope I haven't stressed you out to much, it's not my intention.
SongWriter March 19, 2013 at 03:39 pm
Dreamer, you know you are a dreamer
Well you put your hands in your head, oh no I said, "Dreamer, you're nothing but a dreamer"
Tim Sole March 19, 2013 at 06:26 pm
Walt, only one small problem with your point. Yes, the above will happen and no it will not help our economy, because the so called "Greenies" sold out to overseas manufactures, net loss to American workers and zero help to the American economy. So, until the Enviro-Freaks want to step up and help the common folks with work, BURN BABY BURN THAT OIL AND COAL..............
Wolfman March 25, 2013 at 12:32 pm
Global Warming, Super Storms and Overpopulation is not a joke unless you have your head up your in the sand.
Bob Boren April 3, 2013 at 02:26 pm
Measure A was defeated in 70% of precincts. Your vote count is meaningless. This was a low turnout election. With all of the noise coming from both sides before the election, I think what it really means is that most residents of Redondo Beach don't consider the power plant issue to be an emergency of any kind, and are fine with the status quo.
Bob Boren April 3, 2013 at 02:39 pm
Wolfman, I believe that man-made global warming is a hoax. Many scientists agree, at great risk to their careers for not following the orthodoxy and not partaking of all the Government grants available if you tow the AGW line. Weather and climate are not the same. You guys really crack me up. If its warmer than usual for a period of time, its AGW. If its cooler than normal for a period of time, its AGW. If there are more storms in an area than normal, it's AGW. If there are less storms than usual, it's AGW. Please, use your head. As for Overpopulation, did you know that we are in a demographic winter in most parts of the world today? Even in China? Our biggest problem right now is that we aren't at a birth rate in most of the world that even replaces the population level. And almost every country in the world now has an aging population, especially China, Japan, the US, and the EU. Do some research.
Bob Boren April 3, 2013 at 02:48 pm
We won't be anywhere near capable of replacing fossil fuels with wind and solar for at least 50 years, and possibly ever. Natural Gas, hydro electric, and Nuke power are the best that we have now. The environmental nuts have shut down Nuke, have recommended taking down all dams (including the Colorado River dams), and are trying to shut down Natural Gas using fracking scare tactics. Fusion is our best hope for the future, and there is fuel for that on the moon (look it up). We ought to be spending our money putting mining bases up there. We have the technology, but are wasting all of our money on what the environmentalist idiots want us to do. Most of that centers around people control, as do all efforts coming from the left.
Bob Boren April 3, 2013 at 02:58 pm
Well well, Wolfman, check this out. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/02/The-New-Climate-Consensus
Wolfman April 25, 2013 at 03:35 pm
Checked it out and world overpopulation will surely change our climate
Wolfman May 3, 2013 at 05:10 pm
that is why we are loosing 200,000 acres of rain forrest every day because of a aging population I think you should do some research as we all know people are living longer and still making babies
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